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Was the story behind Act III influenced by the novel All Quiet on the Western Front? Also, Jackie Chan Thread

#1 User is offline   derrek_clay 

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:18 AM

For those of you who are not familiar with the book please read this:
http://en.wikipedia....e_Western_Front

This book is considered one of the greatest war novels of all time as it is set during WWI, and gives a chilling and greusome account of this devastating and tragic war. Oddly enough, when Act III came out and I began listening to it I had also just begun reading this book. I found it very eerie how the two seemed to paralell eachother so well, and I began to wonder if in fact, the storyline behind Act III was directly influenced by this book. Casey stated in an interveiw that Act III was influenced more by novels than actual music, and it struck me as odd that no one had ever brought this up. If you have read the book you will almost certainly see where I am coming from. I was hoping that perhaps Casey or somebody else could clear his up and maybe shed some light on this idea of mine.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:31 AM

Sorry DerrekBroChill, you're 81 years late. We all discussed this in 1929.

This is now the Jackie Chan Thread.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:43 AM

where was this discussed at?
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:16 AM

BLACK GUY AND ASIAN?! SO DIVERSE
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:25 AM

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 10:40 AM

jackie chan is fucking awesome. did you know he spent 12 months in the womb? i am currently reading his autobiography.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:17 PM

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:55 PM

View Postcowboychris88, on 09 February 2010 - 10:40 AM, said:

jackie chan is fucking awesome. did you know he spent 12 months in the womb? i am currently reading his autobiography.




is that why he's so awesome at Martial Arts? he had to fight his way out?
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:26 PM

Jackie refuses to play the role of the bad guy in any movie. He's that bad ass.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:25 PM

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:40 PM

View PostBuster, on 09 February 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

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Ahhh, I totally forgot that I used to watch that
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:58 PM

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:12 PM

ahhhhhhhh this thread is so great
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:25 PM

I liked the novel even though the ending is more than depressing. I think it bares some similarities, but they don't really mimic each other. The only major parallel I see is how The Boy's half-brother dies near the end of Act III in what seems to be the same way that Katchinsky (Paul Baumer's [the main character] best friend, that is, after everybody else is dead) dies in the end. They both carry the same mood in a way. Paul Baumer is kinda stirred into going to war by his friends and he immediately regrets after his first friend is blinded by mustard gas and consequentially shot while trying to uncoil some barbed wire (while blind...). I think The Boy doesn't really want to be in the war at all. The way TDH describe the situation (ie "We can not allow this, this is terrible" from In Cauda Venenum, and "Who would allow this?" from Mustard Gas). It seems like an influence in some respects

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oh, and...
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:11 PM

View Poststefan, on 09 February 2010 - 02:58 PM, said:



thank you so much.

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